Session Start: Tue Aug 28 00:00:00 2012 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[09:56]<@Mulreay> Hit 100 subs.. whoot
[10:15]<Craig> Hey Mulreay
[10:15]<Craig> How is everyone today?
[10:17] * @jacky checks
[10:17] * @jacky is ok
[10:17]<@jacky> :)
[10:17]<Serpent> :)
[10:17]<@jacky> Serpent: Hello
[10:18]<Craig> Hey Jacky, and Serpent,
[10:19]<Craig> You guys know why Vista doesn't want to install on a Inspiron 1201?
[10:19]<Serpent> hello
[10:19]<Craig> I have been trying for over 8 hours now... :(
[10:19]<Craig> It claims that there are no compatible partitions... *or something similar...*
[10:19]<Serpent> !g install vista inprison 1201
[10:19]<Serpent> lol...
[10:20]<Craig> ... really Serpent, you think I haven't google'd it...? :P
[10:20]<@jacky> google changed something on their end... script gets responses like that now. I'll have to check someday, to see if they updated it
[10:20]<Serpent> I've had such issue with the Seven... and scsi controller... never solved
[10:21]<Craig> Hmmm I don't think this is a SCSI controller... though it does have a ribbon cable into a 1.8" drive?
[10:21]<@jacky> Craig: I'm not a vista guru. I wonder what it is looking for? will it let you even repartition?
[10:21]<Serpent> heh, much more common when one tries (with no luck) to replace Vista with XP on a SATA laptop :)
[10:21]<Craig> Yeah I can repartition, and delete, and format, and everything else, but no install... :(
[10:21]<Craig> Heh, no this is a vista based computer,
[10:21]<@jacky> so it did let you format the drive?
[10:22]<@jacky> but then balks?
[10:22]<@jacky> interesting...
[10:22]<Craig> Yeah
[10:23]<@jacky> !lastspoke BC_Programming
[10:23]<@jacky> that would be a good one to run this by...
[10:24]<Craig> :P BC is a that?
[10:24]<@jacky> amongst other things.....
[10:24]<@jacky> heh
[10:24]<Craig> :P
[10:26]<@Mulreay> Would you be surpried if I knew the answer?
[10:27]<Craig> No
[10:28]<@Mulreay> I would
[10:28]<Craig> Sweet
[10:28]<@Mulreay> Sorry not very helpful there
[10:29]<Craig> Hahahhahahaha Nice
[10:29]<Craig> :P
[10:29]<Craig> Laughter is also helpful, makes life easier
[10:30]<@Mulreay> :)
[10:30]<@Mulreay> What are the specs?
[10:30]<@Mulreay> Just out of interest
[10:31]<Craig> Inspiron 1210 <- Centrino 1.8(I think) and 1GB ram, with 1.8" harddrive at 80GB and 4.2k Rpm
[10:32]<Serpent> sounds a little old for a "vista based" imho...
[10:32]<@Mulreay> and the RAM is OK?
[10:32]<@Mulreay> As in it works
[10:33]<Craig> Atom sorry
[10:33]<Craig> *Thats what the dell states...
[10:33]<Craig> yeah :)
[10:34]<@Mulreay> graphics?
[10:34]<Craig> Integrated Intel
[10:34]<@Mulreay> Support for DirectX 9 graphics with WDDM and 128 MB of graphics memory (32 MB for Home Basic)
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[10:35]<@Mulreay> We broke bc
[10:39]<Craig> Dang it, I need a old version of windows to update the freaking bios of this laptop to try to install windows again... Frick...
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[10:41]<Craig> Fricking dell.... arrg
[10:42]<@Mulreay> I have a DELL laptop... but I just stuck Linux on it
[10:43]<Craig> Not and option, its a customer laptop
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[10:50]<Craig> Looks like windows 7 won;t install either
[10:52]<@jacky> using an install hammer? sometimes you have to really jam it in there
[10:52]<@jacky> >g<
[10:52]<Craig> Hahahahah
[10:52]<@jacky> sorry... I'm sure you are frustrated... I shouldn't have done that
[10:52]<@jacky> hehehe
[10:53]<Craig> Oh this is nothing new from dell, I am doing six other things no time to get mad. :p
[10:53]<@jacky> curiosity question... if you boot it to a live-cd, can you read write stuff to that hd? just as an experiment....
[10:53]<Craig> Not sure, can't test it, I dont have a live CD that will work, *windows wise*
[10:53]<@jacky> linux then
[10:54]<Craig> I know linux will, but that is redundant.
[10:54]<@jacky> anything...
[10:54]<@jacky> ah
[10:54]<@jacky> ok
[10:54]<@jacky> so the drive is probably ok
[10:54]<Craig> Yeah drive is fine. :P
[10:55]<@jacky> I was grasping....
[10:56]<Craig> :P If I can get this windows XP host in my VM to work I may be able to format the drive through the VM to get the drive to do a BIOS install... :S
[10:58]<Craig> This VM is much faster than off of a DVD... :P
[11:00]<Craig> I think I confused the DELL program, hahaha, starting it in Windows XP gave me a error, then it stopped, but didnt error out... hahahha
[11:02]<Craig> Dang I wish I had a windows 98 Live CD...
[11:03]<@jacky> anything here? : http://bootdisk.com/
[11:03]<Craig> Guess I am installing a win98 VM
[11:04]<Craig> Thats 3 VMs running now, and all my other programs. :) I like my computer. :P
[11:04]<Craig> No but I think I will keep that link. :)
[11:05]<@jacky> you have to dig around there some anymore... but ok. Yep, at times it is handy
[11:05]<Craig> HAHAHAHAHAH WINDOWS 98 is installing at Mach5
[11:06]<Craig> To get to the point I am at, would normally take about 20 minutes.
[11:06]<Craig> WIth how fast windows 98 is installing it is almost faster to just install it hahahaha
[11:07]<Craig> It would be crazy fast on my hardware direct eh?
[11:07]<Craig> 8cores with 16GB ram... hmmm probably wouldnt know how to start thoguh... :(
[11:08]<Craig> Hey Mulreay, what you up to?
[11:08]<Craig> Hmmm this is windows 98 second edition, it may not like my flash drive....
[11:10]<@jacky> you are not installing *dows on a flash drive?
[11:10]<Craig> no
[11:11]<@jacky> oh. ok
[11:11]<Craig> Its installing to a VM, then I am going to use that to try and get the BIOS extracted.
[11:11]<Craig> so that I can install THAT from the flashdrive
[11:11]<@jacky> use a bios baster. just vacuum it right out
[11:12]<@jacky> >g<
[11:12]<Craig> hahahah doesnt work,
[11:12]<@jacky> I wish BC was active.... hehehee
[11:12]<Craig> And windows 98 is now installed.
[11:12]<Craig> :P
[11:12]<Craig> hahahahha what was that 7 minutes?
[11:13]<@jacky> does it run?
[11:13]<Craig> Wow wish I had 2.8Ghz when I was first using windows 98
[11:13]<Craig> hahahah yeah
[11:13]<Craig> its a full VM works fine
[11:14]<@jacky> and what is your goal, again?
[11:14]<@jacky> sorry...been doing a few things...
[11:14]<Craig> to extract some files out of a file made by dell for floppies...
[11:14]<Craig> Idiots working at dell thought it would be smart to use 16bit executables...
[11:14]<@jacky> how are they archived? something special?
[11:15]<Craig> Not archived, but actually made into an executable,.
[11:15]<Craig> Non extractable... :(
[11:15]<@jacky> oh
[11:15]<@jacky> so you want to run it then
[11:15]<Craig> Essentially
[11:15]<@jacky> what's it do?
[11:16]<Craig> It sets up the floppy to be bootable so that you can update the bios of the dell laptop..
[11:16]<Craig> Which has no floppy slot. :P
[11:16]<Craig> stupid extinct hardware.
[11:16]<@Mulreay> lol
[11:17]<@jacky> then it is an exercise in futility
[11:17]<@Mulreay> Try to imagine how many floppies you would need for win Vista
[11:17]<Craig> Bahahahahahaha
[11:17]<Craig> that would be so sad, like 3000 floppy install.
[11:17]<@Mulreay> yeah heh
[11:18]<@Mulreay> Then half way your like 'OK nobody move, where is 1673'
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[11:18]<@Mulreay> hey camerongray
[11:19]<Craig> Hey Cameron
[11:19]<Craig> do rerun
[11:19]<@jacky> camerongray: where is # 1673 ?
[11:19]<@Mulreay> lol
[11:19]<@jacky> :)
[11:19]<Craig> dang nab it...
[11:19]<@jacky> you lost # 1672, too??
[11:19]<Craig> It doesnt recognize my flashdrive...
[11:19]<Craig> hahahaha
[11:20]<@Mulreay> You lost #1672
[11:20]<@Mulreay> hahahaha
[11:20]<@jacky> right. <@jacky> then it is an exercise in futility
[11:20]<+camerongray> reran, what are we talking about>
[11:21]<@jacky> Craig furiously formats #1671, and starts over
[11:21]<@Mulreay> lol
[11:21]<@jacky> camerongray: it is oscillating between the serious and the silly
[11:21]<@jacky> camerongray: and we REALLY need you to tell us where #1673 is.....
[11:21]<+camerongray> lol
[11:21]<@Mulreay> Craig is attempting to install Vista on an Inspiron 1201
[11:22]<+camerongray> Ahh
[11:22]<@jacky> without use of an install hammer
[11:22]<+camerongray> Wow, you really need the install hammer
[11:22]<Craig> And the bios is out of date so I have to extract a dell bios update... :p
[11:22]<+camerongray> Make sure it is certified for Vista though
[11:22]<@jacky> see! I told you all so
[11:22] * @jacky can sense a "bricking" coming
[11:22]<Craig> WOOT !!!! I can access my cannon printer card reader!
[11:23]<Craig> Woot I can get at the file!
[11:23]<@jacky> now he can fulfull his dream, of bricking his computer....
[11:23]<@jacky> heh
[11:23]<@Mulreay> heh
[11:23]<+camerongray> lol
[11:23]<+camerongray> I have dual BIOS, no bricks for me :D
[11:23]<@jacky> use two hammers
[11:23]<+camerongray> lol
[11:24]<@jacky> camerongray looks like an xylophone player, when he updates his bios!
[11:24]<Craig> Its an Inspiron 1210, first dell to give me major issues.
[11:24]<@Mulreay> I have a dual boot.. one on the left and one on the right... keeps me from walking in circles
[11:24]<@jacky> like not having a floppy drive, when one is required to use their update software? hehe
[11:25]<@jacky> Mulreay: but if you get one on the sidwalk, and one in the street, even when you are sober you look like a drunk.....
[11:25]<@Mulreay> heh
[11:27]<+camerongray> I look drunk when I'm sober all the time
[11:27]<@Mulreay> heh
[11:27]<+camerongray> Walked into a glass automatic door today :P
[11:27]<@jacky> you should do something about that
[11:27]<+camerongray> To be fair, it should open ALL the way, not stop half way
[11:27]<@jacky> camerongray: I hate to be the one to tell you... that's not looking a drunk... that's looking stupid
[11:27]<@jacky> heheehe
[11:27]<@Mulreay> Atleast we can see you now... we just have bc left for a picture and then jacky... well his real name would be a start
[11:28]<@jacky> heh
[11:29]<@Mulreay> Actually camerongray looks like I imagined him to
[11:29]<Craig> Not me
[11:30]<Craig> Hey Jacky have you updated to the 21'st century? Do you have facebook yet?
[11:30]<@Mulreay> lol
[11:30]<@jacky> no facebook here
[11:30]<Craig> Lame
[11:30]<@Mulreay> Jacky is the Ninja of the virtual world.. he's somewhere but you will never find him if you look..
[11:31] * @jacky is looking
[11:32]<@Mulreay> If you can't find yourself than that is more schizophrenia
[11:32]<@jacky> http://tinyurl.com/cxnny3a
[11:33]<Craig> Is that your true face Jacky?
[11:33]<@Mulreay> Exactly how I imagined you
[11:33]<@jacky> heheeh
[11:35]<Craig> I put the exe on a secondary harddrive that is 6MB just so I can extract it. :P
[11:36]<@jacky> what is the name of the .exe ? MonkeyVirus.exe ?
[11:36]<Craig> YMINGA04.EXE
[11:36]<@jacky> that's code, for MonkeyVirus
[11:36]<@jacky> heh
[11:40]<Guest50237> I'm lost where did this stuff about executables pop from
[11:40]<@Mulreay> Hey BC
[11:41]<Guest50237> and why does my nick keep changing :/
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[11:41]<Craig> Anyone have a blank floppy image? I have never needed one...?
[11:41]<@jacky> type /nick Im_adummy
[11:41]<@Mulreay> You need to let your nick expire from a PING out.. or kill it
[11:41]<@BC_Programming> Craig what do you need it for?
[11:41]<Craig> You ping out then log back in
[11:42]<Craig> To extract files out of a Dell BIOS update file so that I can put them on a flash drive so I can flash the bios of this Inspiron 1210 so that I can install windows Vista...
[11:42]<@Mulreay> But your nick takes longer to log out of chanserv.. so if you try to rejoin it will say the nick is in use.. if you don't do anything chanserv assumes your not who you say you are and gives you a guest nick... simples
[11:43]<@jacky> you are sure that is the reason it is not installing?
[11:43]<Craig> yes
[11:43]<@BC_Programming> you could use something like WinImage
[11:43]<@jacky> oh. ok
[11:43]<Craig> Sure,
[11:43]<Craig> but you could just send me a blank image :P
[11:43]<@BC_Programming> how would that help :/
[11:43]<Craig> I tried using a blank CD IMG file. :P Virtual Box didn't like it. :p
[11:44]<@BC_Programming> VirtualBox can't create floppy images?
[11:44]<Craig> Its a very long story, but I have had to install win 98 in a vm so that I can even access the file...
[11:44]<Craig> and no that I can see in settings.
[11:44]<@BC_Programming> Score one for VMWare I guess... heh
[11:45]<@BC_Programming> https://forums.virtualbox.org/download/file.php?id=4594&sid=7c27b7ad40e058bd73ad48972962fe84
[11:45]<Craig> Nice
[11:47]<Craig> How do I move into the mydocuments folder in dos?
[11:48]<Craig> I thought it was CD C:\mydocuments
[11:48]<@jacky> cd
[11:48]<@jacky> where are you now?
[11:48]<Craig> root of C
[11:49]<@jacky> it might be : cd mydocum~
[11:49]<@BC_Programming> cd "My Documents"
[11:49]<@jacky> if the filename/dirname is too long
[11:49]<@BC_Programming> unless you are in MS-DOS mode
[11:49]<@jacky> do dir my*
[11:49]<Craig> dosmode
[11:49]<@jacky> and see what you find
[11:50]<@BC_Programming> MYDOCU~1
[11:51]<@jacky> ah
[11:51] * @jacky is very rusty
[11:51]<Craig> Ok, I am back in windows. :P
[11:51]<Craig> hmmm
[11:51]<@jacky> does that mean we are to forget your previous request?
[11:52]<@BC_Programming> what previous request?
[11:52]<@BC_Programming> heh
[11:52]<@BC_Programming> see what I did thar
[11:52]<@jacky> heheeh
[11:52]<@jacky> gee... let's talk about something else, and just confuse things
[11:52]<@jacky> :)
[11:53]<Craig> ok I put it in the folder c:\bad going to try from there... :p
[11:53]<Craig> It starts the file then stops
[11:53]<Craig> ?
[11:54]<Craig> Meaning it does nothing other than print out
[11:54]<Craig> "This file is made by Biomak blah blah blah so on..."
[11:55]<Craig> ... I hate dell...
[11:57]<@BC_Programming> what are you running?
[11:57]<@BC_Programming> Are you trying to run the BIOS update from within a VM... because that won't work...
[11:58]<Craig> Its supposed to be run in windows to setup a BIOS boot disk...
[11:59]<Craig> Fricking dells...
[11:59]<Craig> How to do this...
[12:00]<@BC_Programming> cd mydocum~1
[12:01]<Craig> Nah I got into the folder,
[12:01]<Craig> I am trying to figure out how to get the files out of the dell exe file so that I can make a bootable flash drive....
[12:02]<Craig> Unless I just need to put the dos files onto the flash drive and then run those?
[12:02]<@BC_Programming> where did you get the exe
[12:02]<Craig> Dell.ca
[12:02]<Craig> Support area
[12:02]<@BC_Programming> I wanted to know so I could get it :/
[12:02]<Craig> Ah
[12:02]<Craig> one moment
[12:02]<Craig> http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/ca/en/cadhs1/DriverDetails/DriverFileFormats/Product/inspiron-1210?DriverId=R219877&FileId=2731126380&urlProductCode=False#fb'
[12:02]<@BC_Programming> thx
[12:02]<Craig> http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/ca/en/cadhs1/DriverDetails/DriverFileFormats/Product/inspiron-1210?DriverId=R219877&FileId=2731126380&urlProductCode=False#fb
[12:03]<@jacky> see you all later...
[12:03]<@jacky> Craig: luck on you
[12:03]<Craig> Later
[12:03]<@jacky> 
[12:03]<Craig> THankd
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[12:04]<+camerongray> lol, yeah Mulreay - need a picture of BC :P
[12:07]<@BC_Programming> Craig
[12:08]<Craig> Yo
[12:08]<@BC_Programming> you could try making a bootable USB
[12:08]<@BC_Programming> and running that exe file on the dell
[12:08]<Craig> How do I make it bootable?
[12:09]<@BC_Programming> I thought that's what you were going to do before :/
[12:09]<@BC_Programming> hard to explain, found this though
[12:10]<@BC_Programming> http://www.intowindows.com/bootable-usb/
[12:17]<Craig> Hmmm, I have done that before but it was for windows disks, I don't know if I can just put a exe on there and boot from it, but I will try
[12:17]<@BC_Programming> Do I need to spell this out. You make a standard boot disk with the necessary files. Specifically, DOS
[12:18]<@BC_Programming> then you run the exe from that boot environment :P
[12:18]<@BC_Programming> that way it's running on the intended system...
[12:18]<Craig> So using the windows 98 disk then,
[12:18]<@BC_Programming> not sure if it will work if it really really wants to write a floppy though
[12:18]<Craig> where do I get the dos files though, I don't remember which ones I need.
[12:19]<Craig> I don't know if the exe writes the floppy or just any folder...
[12:20]<@BC_Programming> found this
[12:20]<@BC_Programming> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~libv/bios_extract/
[12:20]<@BC_Programming> apparently extracts the files from bios images
[12:20]<@BC_Programming> problem being that I haven't got a clue how to compile it
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[12:22]<Craig> heh me either... :P
[12:22]<Craig> Or even what code its written in
[12:22]<Craig> Looks like linux,
[12:22]<@BC_Programming> C
[12:22]<Craig> but I could be wrong
[12:22]<Craig> :P
[12:22]<Craig> Ah
[12:35]<Craig> http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/46707-ms-dos-bootable-flash-drive-create.html <- this method may just work?
[12:59]<Craig> ... nope broke
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[13:03]<@Mulreay> losing people fast
[13:03]<@Mulreay> Quick say something funny
[13:05]<Craig> Dell sucks
[13:05]<Craig> hahaha, I found that funny
[13:08]<@Mulreay> DELL was never cross/tech friendly
[13:08]<Craig> :P
[13:08]<@Mulreay> It's more 'Me Me Me Me Me#
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[13:09]<@Mulreay> Rendering two videos at once on two different computers with the third already waiting... 'hardcore' video making
[13:10]<+camerongray> lol
[13:10]<@Mulreay> But now I am sitting around waiting
[13:10]<Craig> Wish I could donate some processor time
[13:11]<+camerongray> What CPU do you have Craig?
[13:11]<+camerongray> Probably asked before but forgot :P
[13:11]<Craig> 8core FX
[13:11]<Craig> 8120
[13:11]<@Mulreay> sweet
[13:11]<+camerongray> Cool, I used to have an 8150
[13:11]<Craig> Nice, Mine is overclocked to 3.** Ghz
[13:11]<Craig> 3.88Ghz
[13:11]<+camerongray> I had mine at 4.0 :P
[13:12]<Craig> Mine only has air cooling
[13:12]<+camerongray> na na nana na na :P
[13:12]<+camerongray> I had air on mine too :P
[13:12]<Craig> Not stock, but silent
[13:12]<@Mulreay> I have a P4 and an i3 2.8
[13:12]<Craig> :P
[13:12]<+camerongray> not too bad :P
[13:12]<+camerongray> Now on a 3770k @ 4.3GHz
[13:13]<@Mulreay> 3gb and 6gb RAM
[13:13]<Craig> I also have my Phenom x4 and the Athlon2 X2 and a FX X6 6150
[13:13]<+camerongray> Cool, I have an old i7 920
[13:13]<Craig> And the lowly Pentium4
[13:13]<+camerongray> And board/case
[13:13]<+camerongray> Going to sell it
[13:13]<Craig> Mine are all running though :p
[13:13]<+camerongray> I have a P4 2.6GHz HP box but no RAM
[13:13]<@Mulreay> My p4 is 3ghz
[13:14]<+camerongray> Pretty good, Many people underestimate P4s
[13:14]<+camerongray> We still run a couple of P4 servers at work, still work fine
[13:14]<Craig> Not sure what its Ghz is, but it has 2GB ram and is running my apache server
[13:14]<+camerongray> Cool
[13:14]<@Mulreay> Not to bad with the 3gb RAM and the GPU Sound card and what not
[13:14]<+camerongray> Yeah
[13:15]<+camerongray> I don't need this ammount of power :P
[13:15]<+camerongray> But it should last me throughout uni
[13:15]<+camerongray> Which I start in < 2 weeks :D
[13:16]<Craig> I use my 8core all the time, but the x6 is never going to be used unless I get a different os
[13:16]<@Mulreay> I wonder how long it will be untill we start talking about RAM in tb's... camerongray may be my age by then
[13:16]<Craig> Its a media machine. :p
[13:16]<Craig> HAHAHAHA
[13:16]<Craig> We probably will be using TB on ram sooner than you think
[13:16]<@Mulreay> We wouldn't be able to afford it though
[13:17]<Craig> I can already have 256GB and I can make a server that has 512
[13:17]<Craig> so 1TB is right around the corner
[13:20]<@Mulreay> The human Brain can only hold about 500 to 1,000 terabytes so were close to robots and what not
[13:20]<Craig> :P
[13:21]<Craig> I don't know, I think it can hold a lot more than that, I think that we have only begun to understand the amount of storage space in our brains.
[13:22]<@Mulreay> The difference is that info is sorted into what we need and what we don't the computer can't do that
[13:22]<@Mulreay> But some think were talking gigaquads when it comes to data
[13:24]<@Mulreay> I personnaly think we will never replicate the power of the human brain...
[13:25]<Craig> I agree wholeheartedly. :)
[13:26]<@Mulreay> The one great mystery.. to our knowledge the most complex structure in the universe... and it's sat right in all of us.. we use it everyday and in some states build it on it.
[13:27]<@Mulreay> on it*
[13:28]<Magiobiwan> The human brain doesn't store information as Binary though.
[13:29]<Magiobiwan> So it's capacity can't really be MEASURED in the terms of computer storage.
[13:30]<@Mulreay> sorry not sure what you mean? Who said my brain is the same as the next generation of 2.5 SATA Brain drives?...
[13:33]<Craig> :P
[13:33]<Magiobiwan> Mulreay: The human Brain can only hold about 500 to 1,000 terabytes so were close to robots and what not
[13:33]<Magiobiwan> You did.
[13:33]<Craig> No he infired a comparison, not a statement
[13:33]<@Mulreay> indeed
[13:34]<Craig> In terms of Binary that would actually probably be correct, but since the brain doesnt then its wildly inaccurate and there fore not a direct statement
[13:34]<@Mulreay> And I was joking about the 'robots'..
[13:36]<@Mulreay> Anyway i'm not sitting here arguing over the irrelevance of comments.. when the comments were made to friends and not in a forum that was instigated to make a flame war
[13:36]<Craig> YAY the BIOS file is Running!?!!!!
[13:36]<@Mulreay> SWEET
[13:36]<Craig> Yeah
[13:36]<Craig> its making a lot of noise though
[13:37]<Craig> This is freaking me out a bit, most bios updates are faster and silent.
[13:37]<@Mulreay> eeek
[13:37]<Craig> Mostly post beeps.
[13:37]<Craig> Probably normal as its continuing just fine
[13:38]<Craig> Woot! Its at A04
[13:38]<@Mulreay> cool
[13:38]<Craig> proper updated. :)
[13:38]<@Mulreay> well done
[13:39]<Craig> Alright, starting from the beginning again with the Dell ISO... :P
[13:39]<Craig> Vista Basic is going back onto the flash drive;
[13:39]<@Mulreay> Good luck
[13:39]<Craig> Thanks,
[13:39]<Craig> I am going to go eat. :p
[13:40]<@Mulreay> Will be on Skype later if your around bud
[13:40]<@Mulreay> Ton of videos to upload
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[13:52]<Craig> Uhhh that only works for bots... What did you need?
[13:52]<@BC_Programming> I think chanbot replies to that
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[13:54]<Tux22> Hey searay330
[13:54]<searay330> i was looking at the weather
[13:54]<searay330> hi
[13:55]<@BC_Programming> JBouncer?
[13:55]<Tux22> lol, yeah, using wifi off my phone
[13:55]<@BC_Programming> oh ok
[13:55]<@BC_Programming> just making sure you weren't an imposter :P
[13:55]<Tux22> it won't connect using the default port 6667 so I have to use a bouncer through port 8080
[13:55]<@BC_Programming> clever
[13:56]<@Mulreay> Not sure I can take another 'failed transfer'
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[13:58]<Tux22> lol Mulreay
[13:59]<Tux22> Yup, they can't block port 8080, now can they bc?
[13:59]<@BC_Programming> nope
[13:59]<Craig> Woot, problem fixed, the dumb dell is now installing
[13:59]<Tux22> :D
[14:00]<+camerongray> I have come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as a free lunch :(
[14:01]<Craig> It took you that long? I stopped accepting lunches from my mom at 5
[14:01]<@BC_Programming> unless you are interested in timeshares
[14:01]<+camerongray> lol
[14:01]<+camerongray> Innocently scrolling down the list of "Fresher's" activities in the first week of uni and see "Free Lunch!" - Click it then "Christian Socielty"
[14:01]<+camerongray> They tricked me :(
[14:02]<@BC_Programming> need to read the fine print
[14:02]<+camerongray> lol
[14:02]<Tux22> lol camerongray
[14:02]<searay330> lol
[14:02]<+camerongray> And I'm not joking, they seriously did it!
[14:02]<@BC_Programming> they forced you to eat lunch?
[14:02]<searay330> thats just not right
[14:02]<+camerongray> lol. nah, although, free food :P
[14:03]<Tux22> lol, I forgot what server is running my bouncer!
[14:03]<@BC_Programming> haha
[14:03]<+camerongray> see: http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/ents/event/1423/
[14:03]<@BC_Programming> Tux2: should probably tell you, not sure if this was on purpose but it's possible to go to the nether in PvP
[14:03]<+camerongray> Some of these activities are hillarious
[14:04]<@BC_Programming> I went there by accident... but arrowfyre was there first apparently
[14:04]<@BC_Programming> it's OK though since I encased his portal in lava
[14:04]<Tux22> BC_Programming lol
[14:04]<+camerongray> "LEARN TO KNIT WITH KNITSOC" - Yes, there is a Edinburgh University Knitting Society!
[14:04]<Tux22> I installed a nether in pvp
[14:04]<@BC_Programming> ahh ok so it was on purpose
[14:04]<Tux22> eyup!
[14:04]<@BC_Programming> now I don't feel bad for exploiting it, lol
[14:04]<Tux22> Didn't tell anyone
[14:04]<Tux22> lol
[14:04]<searay330> lmfao camerongray
[14:05]<+camerongray> I think I'll stick to Compsoc, the computer society :P
[14:05]<Craig> Things are looking up
[14:05]<Tux22> lol, okay, I found what server the bouncer is running on...
[14:05]<Tux22> I'm running it on the dedi
[14:05]<@BC_Programming> http://bc-programming.com/misc/heheh.png
[14:05]<@BC_Programming> GOOD LUCK arrowfyre
[14:05]<@BC_Programming> :P
[14:06]<Tux22> aww great, a huge pic through 3g
[14:06]<@BC_Programming> oops
[14:06]<Tux22> lol
[14:06]<@BC_Programming> it's just a picture of the nether portal encased in lava
[14:06]<Tux22> I know, it's downloading right now...
[14:06]<Tux22> nice one. ;)
[14:07]<Tux22> He's going to need a fire resistance potion next time he enters the nether
[14:07]<@BC_Programming> yep
[14:07]<@BC_Programming> was considering also encasing it in several extra layers of obsidian
[14:08]<Tux22> lol!
[14:08]<searay330> lol
[14:08]<Tux22> Would have taken too long, you probably wouldn't have done it.
[14:08]<@BC_Programming> well I do have 5-6 stacks of obsidian
[14:08]<Tux22> rofl!
[14:08]<Tux22> I forgot about the super pickaxe
[14:08]<Craig> Bit of lagg on the server at the moment
[14:08]<@BC_Programming> yeah problem is they can use that to get out too though
[14:09]<@BC_Programming> another thing might be to just put booby-traps near the portal with tripwires and instant damage II potions
[14:09]<Tux22> yeah Craig, it's been lagging ever since the 1.3 update
[14:09]<Craig> Ahhh I see
[14:09]<Craig> Wonder why?
[14:09]<Tux22> Not quite sure...
[14:09]<Tux22> I need a good timings report
[14:10]<@BC_Programming> I do know the nether lags in 1.3, and there are I think 3 nethers at least now
[14:10]<Tux22> ah...
[14:11]<Tux22> I'm hoping the 1.3.2-r1 build of craftbukkit fixes these issues.
[14:11]<+camerongray> My code is so muddled up with camelCase and underscores and indentation
[14:11]<Tux22> what are you coding cam?
[14:11]<+camerongray> Just some java practice stuff
[14:11]<@BC_Programming> OTOH it seems to only be "fresh" Nether's that cause the issue, the nether on my single player world doesn't seem to have lag issues, but a fresh 1.3 generated nether does
[14:11]<+camerongray> I'm used to CamelCase and putting brackets on the same line as the statement
[14:12]<+camerongray> But I've been working in codeigniter which wants underscores and brackets on new lines
[14:12]<+camerongray> Which I seem to prefer
[14:12]<Tux22> ah
[14:12]<@BC_Programming> isn't the latter better? java puts the braces on the end of the line that starts the block
[14:12]<@BC_Programming> if(blah) {
[14:12]<+camerongray> Yeah
[14:12]<+camerongray> That's what I'm used to
[14:12]<+camerongray> But I seem to prefer
[14:12]<+camerongray> if(foo)
[14:12]<+camerongray> {
[14:12]<@BC_Programming> java uses camelCase without the initial capital
[14:12]<@BC_Programming> cam: me too
[14:13]<+camerongray> Yeah, Using that
[14:13]<Tux22> I prefer the former
[14:13]<+camerongray> But in PHP I use underscores
[14:13]<+camerongray> There's only one way to sort this,
[14:13]<Tux22> the one with the brackets on the same line
[14:13]<+camerongray> FIGHT!
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[14:13]<@BC_Programming> lol
[14:13]<+camerongray> Scared him :P
[14:13]<Tux22> lol
[14:14]<+camerongray> I never put enough whitespace to new lines spaces the code out more
[14:14]<+camerongray> Which is good for my friend who has OCD when it comes to whitespace
[14:14]<@BC_Programming> regardless of language what I don't like is when IDEs do too much for you
[14:14]<@BC_Programming> like putting brackes or parentheses
[14:14]<+camerongray> Ahh, I like that
[14:14]<@BC_Programming> like with ReSharper if you type ( with the default configuration it puts a ) for you
[14:15]<@BC_Programming> and then I go and put another )
[14:15]<+camerongray> Ahh
[14:15]<@BC_Programming> so I end up having to delete one of them :/
[14:15]<+camerongray> What text editor do you use tux2?
[14:15]<@BC_Programming> Of course it's all optional
[14:15]<@BC_Programming> just hate forgetting to change the options...
[14:15]<+camerongray> Ahh, I use sublimetext, if you open a bracket it will close it but if you put a ) before a ) it overwrites the existing one
[14:16]<Tux22> I use Eclipse
[14:16]<@BC_Programming> good thing about sublime text 2 is it supports D code
[14:16]<+camerongray> Even as a text editor?
[14:16]<Tux22> Just a general text editor?
[14:16]<+camerongray> yeah
[14:16]<Tux22> gEdit
[14:16]<+camerongray> Ahh
[14:16]<+camerongray> Have a look at sublimetext 2
[14:16]<+camerongray> I LOVE it!
[14:16]<Tux22> Remember, I use linux
[14:16]<@BC_Programming> On windows I use EditPad Pro. On Linux I usually install sublime Text 2 but often end up just using gEdit
[14:16]<+camerongray> Cross platform :D
[14:17]<+camerongray> Everyone at work uses N++, saw me using sublime and now they all use it!
[14:17]<@BC_Programming> Notepad++ EWW
[14:17]<+camerongray> Love the dark background too, easier on the eyes
[14:17]<+camerongray> lol, We also use Vim on the BSD servers :D
[14:17]<@BC_Programming> I could never get past the terrible Menus on Notepad++
[14:18]<@BC_Programming> of course. Vi > eMacs. Everybody knows that
[14:18]<@BC_Programming> heh
[14:18]<+camerongray> lol
[14:18]<+camerongray> I'm getting used to vi actually
[14:20]<Tux22> lol, I use nano
[14:20]<+camerongray> Yeah, I used to use nano but we don't have it on the servers
[14:20]<Tux22> sudo apt-get install nano
[14:20]<Tux22> or yum install nano
[14:21]<+camerongray> lol, "we need to keep the servers as light as possible"
[14:21]<+camerongray> And I quite like vim
[14:21]<Tux22> lol, I don't like the way it's structured, but that's personal preferencde.
[14:21]<@BC_Programming> tux2: I think BSD uses "ports" but probably same idea
[14:21]<Tux22> preference*
[14:21]<+camerongray> Pretty rare that something needs edited on the server
[14:21]<Tux22> Yeah, I've used vi before
[14:22]<+camerongray> Home directories on the dev server are mounted through windows so can just use sublime
[14:22]<@BC_Programming> Main reason I like editpad Pro is because it makes it so easy to edit stuff on my FTP
[14:22]<@BC_Programming> no separate download->edit->reupload step, just open and save it and it's live
[14:22]<+camerongray> Only ever need vim for a quick tweak, config files or to do something on a production server
[14:22]<Tux22> I just ssh in and nano the files
[14:23]<+camerongray> Ahh, I prefer the speed of a desktop editor
[14:23]<+camerongray> I'm always worried that the SSH session might die
[14:23]<Tux22> Wait, sublime text is a paid program?
[14:23]<+camerongray> Yeah but the trial never ends :P
[14:23]<@BC_Programming> it's free on Linux iirc
[14:23]<Tux22> lol camerongray, that's why you open a screen session with it in.
[14:23]<@BC_Programming> OOH WAIT... thats why I stopped using it
[14:23]<@BC_Programming> nag screen :/
[14:24]<+camerongray> Nag screen being a message box that appears like once every 100 saves :P
[14:24]<Tux22> $60! no way!
[14:24]<@BC_Programming> still though camerongray
[14:24]<+camerongray> Give the trial a go :P
[14:24]<+camerongray> Switched me from textmate
[14:24]<+camerongray> More than just a text editor though
[14:24]<@BC_Programming> I don't think it's really possible to justify 60$ for a text editor when there are a lot of excellent text editors available for free as well as OSS
[14:25]<+camerongray> True, but It's the best I've used
[14:25]<Tux22> lol camerongray, a text editor is a text editor in my opinion.
[14:25]<@BC_Programming> Of course what I just said makes me a hippocrate since I did buy editpadpro like 3 years ago for almost 50 dollars
[14:25]<@BC_Programming> hippocrite*
[14:25]<@BC_Programming> HIPPO CRATES
[14:25]<+camerongray> Ahh, sublime autocompletes stuff.ect
[14:26]<+camerongray> type class, press tab and it adds the whole class and you can use tab to edit the different parts of it
[14:26]<Tux22> That's what I have eclipse for
[14:26]<@BC_Programming> heh so true
[14:26]<+camerongray> yeah
[14:26]<+camerongray> I tend to use it for huge PHP projects
[14:26]<+camerongray> Works really well for that
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[14:26]<Tux22> ah...
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[14:27]<@BC_Programming> well BCSearch.NET has a start at least
[14:27]<@BC_Programming> http://bc-programming.com/images/searchy.png
[14:27]<+FusRoDah> Lost all my videos in transfer AGAIN.... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[14:28]<Tux22> yay!
[14:28]<@BC_Programming> of course it doesn't actually let you provide what you want to search for yet... just finds everything lol
[14:28]<@BC_Programming> and pay no heed to the search directory :P
[14:33]<@BC_Programming> Mulreay: I still have absolutely no idea how you could possibly fail so frequently at basic file management
[14:34]<@BC_Programming> a copy paste cannot lose the source file :/
[14:34]<+FusRoDah> You sound like my temper
[14:34]<Tux22> FusRoDah: sounds like you need my new program Copy+
[14:35]<+FusRoDah> I keep 'cutting' the file ratherv than copying.. and were talking 8-12gb files
[14:35]<@BC_Programming> yes. Don't cut/paste. an error in the xfer will lose the file
[14:36]<@BC_Programming> since you would be copying over the network, you don't need the space immediately so you ought to copy paste and then after it copies successfully delete the source file if necessary for disk space concerns
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[14:36]<@BC_Programming> At least I think you're copying over the network, iirc
[14:36]<@Mulreay> Yeah... I was being greedy with space
[14:40]<@Mulreay> Managed to save most of the files... trying a copy now
[14:41]<@BC_Programming> hey cool
[14:41]<@BC_Programming> my blog shows up in the MS MVPs Blog Reader
[14:41]<@Mulreay> sweet
[14:42]<Tux22> awesome!
[14:42]<+camerongray> Nice!
[14:43]<@BC_Programming> now I'm just trying to install the win8 app for it
[14:43]<@BC_Programming> the windows store doesn't seem to have a search capability
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[14:44]<+camerongray> Pfft it's really intuitive!
[14:44]<+camerongray> You just type randomly into a non-existant box
[14:44]<+camerongray> :P
[14:47]<@BC_Programming> awww
[14:47]<@BC_Programming> now it's not downloading
[14:47]<@BC_Programming> "your purchase could not be completed" which is probably a good thing it being a free app
[14:47]<+camerongray> lol
[14:49]<+camerongray> I can't wait to start university :P
[14:49]<Tux22> lol
[14:49]<+camerongray> Been having G+ hangouts with other people doing my course
[14:49]<+camerongray> So many activities on as well during the first week
[14:50]<+camerongray> Such as the computer society's walk up "Arthur's seat" which is an extinct volcano in the middle of the city
[14:50]<+camerongray> I claim that as my fresh air for the year
[14:50]<@BC_Programming> It's only extinct until somebody does a documentary about it
[14:50]<+camerongray> lol
[14:51]<+camerongray> hmm, what other events are there that I'm going to
[14:51]<+camerongray> Must check the very buggy website
[14:52]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, can't wait for this one
[14:52]<+camerongray> And it's real
[14:52]<+camerongray> Ikea trip :P
[14:52]<+camerongray> Why?
[14:52]<@BC_Programming> to learn about swedish furniture
[14:53]<+camerongray> lol
[14:53]<+camerongray> And how to decypher the stupid diagrams without words
[14:53]<+camerongray> I still don't trust my CD racks :P
[14:54]<+camerongray> "Killer Pool" sounds intriguing :P
[14:55]<@BC_Programming> sounds like a B movie
[14:55]<+camerongray> BAHAHA! The christian society really want people
[14:55]<+camerongray> "For a FREE toastie text 07813245735 between 8pm and 10pm. Text this info: your address, a question you would ask Jesus, if you could, and the flavour of toastie you would like (cheese, ham or chocolate)."
[14:55]<@BC_Programming> :/
[14:55]<+camerongray> And no, it is real: www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/ents/event/1444/
[14:56]<Tux22> lol
[14:56]<+camerongray> I mean, how does it even work!
[14:56]<Tux22> My phone has just hit 120 degrees Fahrenheit
[14:57]<+camerongray> Do they come to your house with a toastie?
[14:57]<@BC_Programming> they text it to you obviously
[14:57]<+camerongray> lol
[14:57]<Tux22> lol
[14:58]<@BC_Programming> oh hey I have a lot of e-mails saying they can make my roosters larger
[14:58]<@BC_Programming> They don't actually say Rooster but obviously it couldn't be a euphemism
[14:59]<+camerongray> What I also find rather ammusing is that if you tick "Alcohol Free" the list drops to two items, a poster sale and a cathedral trip :P
[14:59]<@BC_Programming> lol
[14:59]<@BC_Programming> thing is
[14:59]<@BC_Programming> any trip you go on can be made alcohol free
[14:59]<@BC_Programming> just don't drink any of it :/
[14:59]<+camerongray> yeah :P
[15:00]<+camerongray> I don't know of any religion or law against being in the same room :P
[15:00]<@BC_Programming> Of course then you have the issue of being likely the only sober person in a group which isn't necessarily a bad thing because it makes you realize how stupid everybody else is
[15:00]<@BC_Programming> is being, rather
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[15:01]<+camerongray> Well, then you have to take care of the drunk people :P
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[15:01]<+camerongray> Which has happened to me before
[15:02]<@BC_Programming> Personally I only drink at houses, I don't go to bars or anything because I think that's stupid
[15:02]<@BC_Programming> people keep saying "you need to meet people" but I mean have you really met somebody if neither of you can see straight
[15:02]<@BC_Programming> defeats the purpose
[15:02]<+camerongray> I go to bars.etc with friends but drink very little
[15:03]<+camerongray> Never to the stage that I couldn't pass a sobriety test
[15:03]<@BC_Programming> it's fun to swap out friends beers and alcohol with a non-alcoholic variant
[15:03]<Tux22> lol
[15:03]<@BC_Programming> it's funny because they still act like morons
[15:03]<Tux22> It's the pseudo effect
[15:04]<+FusRoDah> Morons? Oh your talking about me... carry on
[15:04]<@BC_Programming> well they figure that it gives them an excuse
[15:04]<+camerongray> It's true actually
[15:04]<@BC_Programming> I think the worst thing I've done is try to write code while under the influence
[15:05]<+camerongray> lol
[15:05]<@BC_Programming> it worked fine to be fair
[15:05]<+camerongray> I've never been drunk or drunk enough to act really any different to normal
[15:05]<@BC_Programming> well in the above case I had had 12 bottles of 12% alc stuff
[15:05]<+camerongray> My friends on the other hand :P - I remember him trying to work his smartphone at new year to find where the rest of the group was
[15:06]<@BC_Programming> I wouldn't have passed a sobriety test but was perfectly fine debugging and writing C# code
[15:06]<@BC_Programming> as long as I kept my head really still
[15:06]<+camerongray> The conversation seemed to go like "Where are you? I'm at the bench. What do you mean what bench, the green one"
[15:06]<+camerongray> Then I took over
[15:06]<+camerongray> lol
[15:07]<@BC_Programming> then I forget I even had anything to drink until I try to stand up :/
[15:07]<@BC_Programming> "WHY CAN'T I WALK... Oh... right CURSES!"
[15:07]<+camerongray> lol, I'm fine, never been unable to walk
[15:07]<+camerongray> Well, any worse at walking than I already am :P
[15:07]<@BC_Programming> yeah you've never had enough is all :P
[15:07]<+camerongray> Yeah, and I never will :P
[15:07]<@BC_Programming> well that's OK. I only ever drank at home
[15:08]<+FusRoDah> Be worried if you can't crawl
[15:08]<+camerongray> lol
[15:08]<@BC_Programming> Actually some of my earlier videos were recorded with a rather high blood alcohol
[15:08]<+camerongray> I'm far too sensible with these things :P
[15:09]<@BC_Programming> I don't know which ones though... and I can't tell
[15:09]<+camerongray> lol, never been drunk, never smoked or taken drugs
[15:09]<+camerongray> That sort of thing
[15:09]<@BC_Programming> I have no plans on the latter two
[15:10]<+camerongray> Same
[15:10]<@BC_Programming> well except for like 'safe' drugs like from a pharmacy or like tylenol or what have you
[15:10]<+camerongray> Yeah :P
[15:10]<+camerongray> I still remember one time walking between schools with some friends who are a bit like me arguing about division by 0 when a police officer walked past...
[15:11]<@BC_Programming> lol
[15:11]<+camerongray> His response was "You have just dispelled any ideas I had about todays youth"
[15:11]<@BC_Programming> lol
[15:11]<@BC_Programming> conversely, for some reason the friends we are staying at are letting some 13-year old kid that has major issues with authority stay around
[15:12]<@BC_Programming> acts all tough
[15:12]<@BC_Programming> it was actually sort of funny
[15:12]<@BC_Programming> he was like "do I scare you bro"
[15:12]<@BC_Programming> and I was like "well, let's see, you can't grow facial hair and I've heard more manly voices on the muppets, so, I'm going to say no"
[15:13]<+FusRoDah> lol
[15:13]<@BC_Programming> I was rather fond of the muppets portion myself
[15:13]<+FusRoDah> me too
[15:14]<@BC_Programming> what annoys me most is his attitude, and the fact that I can't really do anything about it without "rocking the boat" as it were
[15:15]<@BC_Programming> he's a shoplifter and the police are looking for him for that, and he acts like it's a badge of honour
[15:15]<+FusRoDah> I get it all the time... i live in a rough area of manchester (Wythenshawe)
[15:15]<@BC_Programming> no, it's NOT. you are a criminal and I hate you, and I especially hate having to ask if things were stolen so I can rightly refuse to use or eat them
[15:16]<+camerongray> lol, yeah
[15:16]<@BC_Programming> Nobody asked me to cover for him when some police were looking for him so I told them e xactly what I knew
[15:16]<+FusRoDah> Some lad turned to me in a bus stop and said 'ya bro give me ya phone' I said 'when i get your hand'... It didn't quite compute with him
[15:16]<Tux22> lol
[15:16]<@BC_Programming> "I'm looking for a kid named XXX, you seen him"
[15:16]<+camerongray> lol - never had that here
[15:16]<@BC_Programming> and the person who was in the room with me who was his friend was like "No never heard of him"
[15:16]<@BC_Programming> and I said "yeah, he just ran out the back way"
[15:17]<+camerongray> That's the other reason I'd never get drunk, I could get into dangerous situations like that
[15:17]<+camerongray> Especially when carrying a ?500+ phone and a wallet with money and cards in it
[15:17]<Tux22> lol, yeah
[15:18]<Tux22> my phone only cost me $180 to be fair though
[15:18]<+camerongray> Or I'd drop it :P
[15:18]<+FusRoDah> I have a nasty temper so try and stay away from these 'homie kids'
[15:18]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[15:18]<@BC_Programming> YO DAWG
[15:18]<+FusRoDah> Never hit one but i made one cry
[15:19]<@BC_Programming> so anyway now the kid has been trying to get a burn on me
[15:19]<+camerongray> The thought of getting so drunk that I am unable to work my phone terrifies me
[15:19]<@BC_Programming> "all you do is work on your computer"
[15:19]<+FusRoDah> lol
[15:19]<+camerongray> lol
[15:19]<@BC_Programming> so I say "all you do is wear your hat backwards and look like a moron"
[15:19]<Tux22> lol
[15:19]<+camerongray> hahaah
[15:19]<@BC_Programming> Who wears their hat backwards? seriously that looks ridiclous
[15:19]<+camerongray> Where are his parents?
[15:19]<@BC_Programming> that is a very good question
[15:20]<+FusRoDah> I can steal your identity with a few touches of a button.. all you can do is het your hand broken if you toutch me
[15:20]<+camerongray> http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/fail-owned-hat-fail.jpg%3Fw%3D500%26h%3D667
[15:20]<@BC_Programming> cam: exactly
[15:20]<@BC_Programming> it basically goes down to this; you know those types of people that are like a Drama magnet and if they cannot create their own Drama they will just have people over that have a lot of their own
[15:20]<@BC_Programming> that's pretty much the friends we are staying with
[15:21]<+camerongray> Ahh
[15:21]<+camerongray> As long as he doesn't kill you :P
[15:21]<@BC_Programming> he's 13
[15:21]<+FusRoDah> If he was American he could have an AK47 with a gloch 17
[15:22]<@BC_Programming> well this is Canada...
[15:22]<@BC_Programming> honestly I think he's afraid of me simply because he can't intimidate me
[15:23]<@BC_Programming> He also made the mistake of saying he was a science expert because apparently he knows that steam is just water without nuetrons
[15:23]<+FusRoDah> It sounds like a 'dog pee'ng contest' you came into my world and i'm boss... obviously he's not
[15:24]<+camerongray> lol
[15:24]<Tux22> lol
[15:25]<@BC_Programming> I'm surprised he hasn't pulled the MLP card out yet, actually
[15:25]<Tux22> rofl!
[15:25]<+camerongray> lo
[15:25]<+camerongray> lol*
[15:25]<Tux22> does he know you like ponies?
[15:25]<@BC_Programming> I would think so
[15:25]<@BC_Programming> he's seen my PC wallpapers
[15:27]<@BC_Programming> I think what bothers me most actually is his constant swearing... I mean I swear a lot but not in front of a 10 year old and a 7 year old that's just uncool
[15:27]<+FusRoDah> Yeah, very not right
[15:27]<+camerongray> Yeah
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[15:28]<+camerongray> So he's basically living with you?
[15:28]<@BC_Programming> I'm not really sure
[15:28]<+camerongray> lol
[15:28]<Tux22> lol
[15:28]<@BC_Programming> I just kind of stay in this room and avoid interacting with all the Drama Queens
[15:28]<+camerongray> yeah
[15:28]<Tux22> Okay, I tried to blow up one of those balloons you use for animals with a bike pump.... seems the kids had played with it too much...
[15:28]<@BC_Programming> LOL!
[15:28]<Tux22> it popped before it filled up too much
[15:29]<+camerongray> lol
[15:29]<Tux22> I had a nice bubble going up the balloon, then BOOM!
[15:29]<+camerongray> Kids that think their tough can be hilarious
[15:29]<@BC_Programming> lol yep that's for sure
[15:30]<@BC_Programming> I've had to stifle laughter more than once
[15:30]<+camerongray> I remember walking to my alternative school (Where I studied Advanced Higher Computing) with a tie from my main school, one kid (About 13) chants "Shite School" to a bunch of 18 year olds, we just looked and shrugged
[15:31]<+camerongray> Even continued to try to look tough while being told off for "saying naughty words" by his "Learning Support Teacher"
[15:31]<@BC_Programming> bahaha
[15:31]<+camerongray> Then the ones that play constant noise out of their phones on the bus
[15:32]<@BC_Programming> and it's always rap music
[15:32]<+camerongray> Or something that sounds like a dial-up modem :P
[15:32]<@Mulreay> A guy in High school told me 'Your too short to be in this class'.... not sure
[15:32]<@BC_Programming> I mean just once I'd like one of them to play some Eurobeat brony
[15:32]<+camerongray> lol
[15:33]<@BC_Programming> Mulreay: and you said "and you're too stupid to be in this class."
[15:33]<+camerongray> By rap music usually related to someone wanting to die or kill someone :P
[15:33]<@BC_Programming> "seems we both beat the system buddy"
[15:34]<+camerongray> lo
[15:34]<+camerongray> lol*
[15:34]<@Mulreay> Nah, I just know I'm too clever to be in his demographic
[15:34]<@BC_Programming> OOOH
[15:34]<@Mulreay> lol
[15:34]<+camerongray> lol
[15:34]<@BC_Programming> or you could say, "well, replace the ho with your ma and I agree" short->smart
[15:34]<@Mulreay> hahaha
[15:35]<@BC_Programming> It works on multiple levels
[15:35]<@Mulreay> indeed
[15:35]<+camerongray> Best thing is when you think up a really smart response
[15:35]<@BC_Programming> but it's always like 10 minutes after
[15:35]<+camerongray> Yeah
[15:36]<@BC_Programming> most of the time... it's when you come up with it in a timely fashion that it's pretty epic
[15:36]<+camerongray> Or you just act much better than them :P
[15:37]<@BC_Programming> or you can just say "perhaps" to everything
[15:37]<+camerongray> lol
[15:37]<+camerongray> Damn, I should have used that :P
[15:38]<@BC_Programming> "Was your mother a gorilla"... "perhaps"
[15:38]<@Mulreay> I had one 'Graham (smack) and he hit me.. I said after feeling my jaw.. was quite a punch 'didn't know your mother was here'... not the best but that is what i did... used to get a hit a lot... i wonder if they just wanted the one liners
[15:38]<+camerongray> Chav saying "Hahaha, you're pure wearing a skirt" to me and some friends while walking to a very formal event in kilts
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[15:38]<+camerongray> Should have said perhaps
[15:38]<+camerongray> or "OMG, we are!"
[15:38]<+camerongray> Acting as though what they said was correct is also fun
[15:39]<+camerongray> Sometimes they actually think that you think they are correct
[15:39]<@BC_Programming> or "thanks! Never noticed."
[15:39]<+camerongray> yeah
[15:40]<+camerongray> Or "Perhaps, but you are wearing what appears to be white polythene and a cap backwards"
[15:40]<@BC_Programming> "Additionally, and if I may inquire, but is your heritage perhaps rooted in a cansanguinous pairing?"
[15:41]<+camerongray> hahaha
[15:41]<@Mulreay> People who hit people are people that cannot think.
[15:41]<+camerongray> Need to try the "act really upper-class" comeback
[15:41]<@BC_Programming> then one of the others says "indeed! I dare say! I would argue that the Jowels definitely give away that there was significant inbreeding in his family line"
[15:42]<+camerongray> lol
[15:42]<@BC_Programming> "Perhaps it was an Uncle who was his father as well? Difficult to say without learning of his geneology"
[15:42]<@BC_Programming> "I say fair chap! Where are you going! We have yet to determine if your father was your uncle and your brother!"
[15:42]<+camerongray> lol
[15:43]<@BC_Programming> of course all the above must be done wearing a monocle
[15:43]<+camerongray> The problem is that they get all the money :P
[15:43]<@BC_Programming> money for what
[15:43]<Tux22> lol
[15:43]<+camerongray> Well, organisations that support them get a lot of money
[15:44]<@BC_Programming> there are organizations that support insectuous relationships?
[15:44]<@BC_Programming> HAHA
[15:44]<@BC_Programming> insectuous
[15:44]<@BC_Programming> AWESOME TYPO
[15:44]<+camerongray> lol
[15:45]<@BC_Programming> "It all started when he stung me" the story of a woman falling in love with a bee
[15:45]<@BC_Programming> And their forbidden romance
[15:45]<+camerongray> I do IT for a local youth club in a pretty middle-class area, we get almost no money, currently running 3 P4 PCs and an 800MHz P3 with a PS2 and original XBOX, you look at the clubs in poorer areas and they have brand new laptops for all their members and several PS3s and XBOX 360s
[15:45]<@BC_Programming> and the fact that it was short because the bee died as a result of the sting
[15:45]<+camerongray> Both are funded by the same council
[15:45]<@BC_Programming> how does that work?
[15:46]<+camerongray> Exactly, something along the lines of they can't afford that kind of stuff themselves so they need a club that provides tehm
[15:46]<@BC_Programming> and yet how many of them have the exact same type of equipment at home
[15:46]<+camerongray> Yeah
[15:47]<+camerongray> We finally got a grant for a few new laptops but only after literally inviting the council to the club and talking to them in front of everyone trying to use the PCs
[15:48]<+camerongray> With me regularly shouting "Just wait for it, it's 13 years old, YES! 13 years old, VERY OLD!"
[15:48]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[15:48]<@BC_Programming> thunderstorm here
[15:48]<@BC_Programming> I bet you the !w will say light rain
[15:48]<@BC_Programming> !w Nanaimo BC
[15:48]<+camerongray> lol
[15:48]<@BC_Programming> well Rain
[15:49]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, reminds me to show you my latest website, http://dev.buckstoneyouthproject.co.uk/
[15:49]<+camerongray> What do you think?
[15:49]<+camerongray> The club still haven't responded to my email for them to check it :P
[15:50]<@BC_Programming> very good
[15:50]<+camerongray> thanks
[15:50]<@BC_Programming> shame they are too slow to respond
[15:50]<+camerongray> much better than the current one I built in joomla and left for them to update: buckstoneyouthproject.co.uk
[15:50]<@BC_Programming> this thunder is so realistic, I feel like I'm in Minecraft
[15:51]<+camerongray> lol
[15:51]<+camerongray> Want to see the website they designed before I did their IT?
[15:51]<@BC_Programming> I'm not sure if I can take it
[15:51]<@BC_Programming> lol
[15:51]<+camerongray> Do you have epilepsy?
[15:51]<+camerongray> http://buckstoneyouthproject.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
[15:52]<@BC_Programming> not that I know of but I guess we'll find out
[15:52]<@BC_Programming> FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY
[15:52]<+camerongray> lol
[15:52]<+camerongray> Took me a year to get them to replace it
[15:52]<@BC_Programming> "how many different colours and flashy objects can we put on a page"
[15:52]<+camerongray> They didn't even know how to change it so it was stuck in 2010
[15:52]<@BC_Programming> "I don't know, let's find out"
[15:53]<+camerongray> This is the worst page http://buckstoneyouthproject.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/goss.html
[15:53]<searay330> tux22 u there
[15:53]<@BC_Programming> WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME YOU MONSTER
[15:53]<@BC_Programming> lol
[15:54]<+camerongray> I mean, who thinks that looks good
[15:54]<@BC_Programming> not me
[15:54]<+camerongray> And they actually did complaining the new site (Joomla) looked to boring
[15:55]<@BC_Programming> :/
[15:55]<@BC_Programming> if by "boring" then they mean "usable" I agree
[15:55]<+camerongray> lol
[15:55]<+camerongray> Wait, someone has seriously updated the programme PDF on the old site after the new one was launched
[15:55]<@BC_Programming> ...
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[15:57]<+camerongray> At least they said they liked the initial design of the new site
[15:57]<+camerongray> Plus it's drupal which is awesome!
[15:57]<+camerongray> I'm also very pleased with myself with that yellow bar on the homepage, it uses PHP and can be set to "expire" to a default message
[15:58]<searay330> i registed my name right
[15:58]<+camerongray> We have had issues before where the banner has been updated to say "Next week we are going go-karting" and forgot to update it the next week and had people going to the wrong place
[15:58]<+camerongray> Now we set a date for it to expire where it says "Please check our programme of activities"
[15:59]<+camerongray> Well, until someone goes to update and thinks "What is this nonsense that says DO NOT MODIFY - CODE on it" and deletes it
[15:59]<+camerongray> And that WILL happen :P
[16:00]<+camerongray> Oh yeah BC, did you get the banner about cookies on the site?
[16:00]<@BC_Programming> yeah
[16:00]<@BC_Programming> thought that was cool, ascribes to UK law to my understanding
[16:00]<+camerongray> grr, need to fix that to only EU residents
[16:00]<+camerongray> Yeah, stupid law though :P
[16:00]<@BC_Programming> yeah probably
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[16:01]<+camerongray> The cookie policy basically says "We use these cookies& You can disable them but will break this and other websites"
[16:04]<+camerongray> I like the bit where I put "4 Desktop and 3 Laptop computers with high speed internet access (Printing available)" - I didn't dare mention specs :P
[16:04]<+camerongray> The laptops are okay - HP 625, Athlon II P320
[16:04]<+camerongray> But the rest aren't :P
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[16:11]<@Mulreay> Managed to catch all the video parts for my part 6
[16:11]<@BC_Programming> cool
[16:12]<@Mulreay> I took your advise and copied rather than cut..
[16:13]<@BC_Programming> yeah if you copy you can't corrupt the source so it things go foggy you can just try again
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[16:22]<@Mulreay> OK rendering the stuff I 'thought' I lost
[16:23]<@BC_Programming> ROFL! I got a trackback for that fake Privacy Policy post
[16:27]<@Mulreay> 2hrs for the render :(
[16:29]<@Mulreay> Can't put a price on me... wow i sound like a twat
[16:29]<@BC_Programming> only 2 hours
[16:29]<@BC_Programming> mine often take 5
[16:29]<@BC_Programming> I had one take 2 bloody days in fact
[16:30]<@Mulreay> wow
[16:30]<@Mulreay> You should play with vegas pro...
[16:31]<@BC_Programming> No
[16:31]<@Mulreay> ok
[16:31]<@BC_Programming> I already tried using it. Not bothered. Can't even get it installed properly
[16:31]<@BC_Programming> the really long render times seem to depend on my settings
[16:32]<@BC_Programming> the vech's map videos are only taking maybe a half hour to render each for some reason
[16:32]<@BC_Programming> yet the "first attempt" where I gave up took almost 12 hours for the same amount of footage. Very odd
[16:32]<@Mulreay> Stick with what you know
[16:33]<@Mulreay> I'm working with Vegas now and it works]
[16:34]<@BC_Programming> well until you try to cut and paste :P
[16:34]<@Mulreay> :0
[16:35]<@Mulreay> Nothing to do with Vegas... just my external HDD
[16:35]<@BC_Programming> yeah I know
[16:36]<@Mulreay> I'm using my other 1tb HDD and files are transferring fine
[16:37]<@Mulreay> Hence my new video
[16:38]<@Mulreay> I don't always keep you all in touch
[16:38]<@Mulreay> Another video is rendering
[16:53]<@Mulreay> Haha Just been told the NHS is Communism... wow
[17:24]<searay330> bye bye
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[23:48]<@BC_Programming> BAHAHA
[23:49]<@BC_Programming> that kid saw me working on BCSearch
[23:49]<@BC_Programming> "Are you making a web page"
[23:49]<@BC_Programming> *headdesk*